27 November 2004

Firefox Browser compatibility with "Add to My Yahoo Button"

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    Summary

    Yahoo has a fine product and users will find it an excellent tool to track their favorite RSS feeds.

  • It is easy to add RSS feeds to "My Yahoo" using both Firefox and Internet Explorer.

  • When adding RSS feeds to MyYahoo, both Firefox and IE performed well.

    For users, the only real problem occurs when "users not signed into Yahoo" attempt to Add RSS feeds. In most if not all cases, instead of being shown the RSS feed "to be added" to myYahoo, yahoo-users-not-signed-in are shown a blank field.

    Test objective

    This test only looked at the ease of using the existing "Add to My Yahoo" buttons that are publicly available. This test hoped to determine whether there were any problems with the embedded HTML code in the buttons; any problems with linking; or any problems with adding RSS feeds to MyYahoo using either Internet Explorer or Firefox. There are no major issues.

    Tests

    This blog entry applies 12 tests to the Firefox and Internet Explorer search engines.

    Original blog entry

    This blog entry tests the compatibility of the "Add to my Yahoo button" [for the RSS feed] with various browsers.

    Purpose of this blog entry is to identify error messages that are unique to browsers and their compatibility with "Add to my Yahoo" button Bar.

    This test will determine whether there are unique errors to the "non-IE" browsers that interfere with "Adding an RSS feed to My Yahoo" using the existing "Add to my yahoo button bars".

    Browsers tested: Ref

    Test

    Browser loaded to desktop only, no embedded files added to system. No data was imported from MS IE during download or set-up.

    12 tests run.

    Questions

    Were there any problems adding the RSS feed to "My Yahoo" using the 12 options?

    Are there any error messages outside what was baselined in the updated 12-tests?

    Test Results

    Firefox Set-up, general observations

    1. Firefox did not recognize the target website. Ref

    Sorry, no information is available for the URL mudtesting.blogspot.com

    * If the URL is valid, try visiting that web page by clicking on the following link: mudtesting.blogspot.com
    * Find web pages that contain the term "mudtesting.blogspot.com" Ref


    2. Firefox's color recognition not consistent with MS IE. Adjusted colors did not appear as changed. Confirmed using MS IE that the colors were changed. Unclear why the color-representation in Firefox is not consistent with MS IE.

    Detailed test resultsRef


    Test 1


    No error message, connected. However nothing appeared in the box to the right. Neither an error message nor a sample site-feed.


    Test 2


    Only showed one-RSS-feed item. No errors for Firefox. OK to use. However, after signing in to Yahoo with a valid ID, browser showed a "Loading preview ..." but never showed anything. After approx 2 minutes got a "Preview temporarily unavailable. However, you can still click "Add It" to add this source to your page."

    Interestingly, a comparison with MS IE on the same test [without signing-in] produced a "We're sorry this service is temporarily not available." Message.

    After hitting the "back" button on MS IE, was a link to http://us.rd.yahoo.com/my/add/rss/*, stating, "The requested URL /my/add/rss/* was not found on this server."


    Test 3


    Start Time: 27-Nov-04, UTC 20:15:30

    Firefox able to connect to the complete RSS-feed, showed detailed colors. Even had the selected "My Yahoo" layout colors -- a first time for any of the tests. All other times showed a simple "black and white" layout without any colors.

    IE gave an "unable to connect"-type message:

    Action canceled
    Internet Explorer was unable to link to the Web page you requested. The page might be temporarily unavailable.



    Test 4


    Start Time: 27-Nov-04, UTC 20:19:12

    Test 4 is merely a calibration test of the feed-to-browser connection.

    Firefox fell down on this one. We're using a valid feed, but the formatting fails to display the nice breaks. Firefox shows all HTML-links in the Feedburner-feed as plain-text, meaning that they do not appears as bold or sample link, but they are listed as code as if with a pre- or code-command.

    IE does not suffer this problem: All text is spaced, highlighted, and links work in Test three.

    Appears as though there is a compatability issue in the way that Firefox reads the validated-RSS feed, unclear why IE performs in a superior manner than Firefox with respect to feed-format.

    Recommend there be some further study of the differences between browser display of various feeds. It seems surprising this late in the game [2004] that a browser is still having a problem with simple HTML in a feed.


    Test 5


    Start Time: 27-Nov-04, UTC 20:27:03

    If users are already signed into Yahoo, Firefox performed well: Nice colors in the display box with a connected feed, and feed could be added and deleted without problems.

    However, if users are not signed into Yahoo, get a blank "right hand box" but still offered the opportunity to sign-in at the left. Able to sign-in, add the feed, and correctly connected to the blogger-error messages related to "page not available" [after title changed].

    Not Found

    The requested URL was not found on this server. Please visit the Blogger homepage or the Blogger Knowledge Base for further assistance. Ref


    In Test 5, and "not signed in to Yahoo," IE showed the following:

    Action canceled
    Internet Explorer was unable to link to the Web page you requested. The page might be temporarily unavailable.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Please try the following:

    Click the Refresh button, or try again later.

    If you have visited this page previously and you want to view what has been stored on your computer, click File, and then click Work Offline.

    For information about offline browsing with Internet Explorer, click the Help menu, and then click Contents and Index.

    Internet Explorer


    The problem with the above message: It is not visible in the window. Only able to read the message if scroll back and forth, or repasting it elsewhere.

    "When already signed into Yahoo," IE Test 5 linked to the Feed. It is interesting that the color difference is apparent: Firefox shows the user's selected colors, while IE shows a light-brown, the same shade in the blogger-editing box.

    Color Comparison:

    Given the inconsistency between the "original colors in an HTML" for the yahoo-buttons, not surprising there is a color difference. However, unclear if this is a translation-disconnect [the browser reads one code and shows something else], or whether this is a display issue [IE does not appear to take a user's content-related choices on color, while Firefox appears to do so].

    Confirmation message comparison:

    Firefox displays the Yahoo-related material in a new browser, taking the user to the "My Yahoo content."

    On the other hand, IE does it a little differently with a java-box. Rather than take the user directly to the "My Yahoo" content as Firefox does, IE stays in the same window and shows a "yellow java-pop-up box" [more formal than the yellow-boxes for link-comments] and allows users to [a] remove the just added RSS-feed; [b] go back a window; or [c] go to my Yahoo to see the changes.

    Perhaps IE will make the java boxes similar to the Outlook Express buttons: Rounded, smooth, and a little less harsh in terms of font and box-angles. Yes, details.


    Test 6


    Start Time: 27-Nov-04, UTC 20:27:03

    Firefox works well if "already signed in," but if not signed in there's "a blank box on the right" [giving no indication of the feed contents], yet there is no specific error message on the right.

    Rather, Firefox tends to produce one of those "here's what we'll give you" but then shows nothing when they say,

    Here's what the source will look like on your My Yahoo! page


    This is not all that inviting. Yet, on the left we see the "To add this source to My Yahoo! you need to sign in." [Emphasis added]. Ok, "what are we adding?" No answer.

    Even when we do sign-in this test on Firefox produces the following, with light-brown outline-colors:

    Preview not available. Add this content to your page to see it


    IE works well "if already signed into Yahoo." IE, without signing in to Yahoo produces:

    Action canceled
    Internet Explorer was unable to link to the Web page you requested. The page might be temporarily unavailable.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Please try the following:

    Click the Refresh button, or try again later.

    If you have visited this page previously and you want to view what has been stored on your computer, click File, and then click Work Offline.

    For information about offline browsing with Internet Explorer, click the Help menu, and then click Contents and Index.

    Internet Explorer


    It's apparent that the "java-box" is not unique to Firefox-IE, but to Yahoo. Unclear why this only suddenly appeared in this test.

    Also, despite updating the feed, the "most current" listed is from 2 days ago [last date of update prior to this blog-entry].


    Test 7


    Start Time: 27-Nov-04, UTC 20:55:27

    IE showed the "Action cancelled"-error message "when not signed in"; after signing in got a "Loading preview ..." message in the right-box, and the correct color scheme appearing. Clearly, the color scheme is not a function of the browser but what the user selects in "My Yahoo."

    After prompted with, "Add it?" and say, "No thanks," get the following:

    Sorry, the page you requested was not found.
    Please check the URL for proper spelling and capitalization. If you're having trouble locating a destination on Yahoo!, try visiting the Yahoo! home page or look through a list of Yahoo!'s online services. Also, you may find what you're looking for if you try searching below.


    ... suggesting that Yahoo doesn't have a complete wiring diagram of the user-faults yet. In other words, probably people who are testing this generally "only choose to select to add" and they haven't created a page to 'deal with those who balk."

    - Error mode for IE-Yahoo:

    A. Signed in
    B. Selected a Feed to Add
    C. Pressed the "Add to My Yahoo button"
    D. Arrived at this link: here
    E. Prompted with,

    Mud's Tests
    RSS-interface: End-user beta-testing

    Add this source to the RSS Headlines (BETA) module on your page.


    F. If choose "No thanks" got the same error message as above, "Sorry, the page you requested was not found. Please check the URL for proper spelling and capitalization. ...." Ref

    Doing the same with Firefox [Choosing no thanks], rather than go to an error page as does IE, Firefox "just sits there." Ref.

    Let's assume that the "problem" as this point is the Yahoo-beta [confirmed by the error page with IE]; it looks as though what Firefox does [unlike IE] is rather than go to a page that doesn't work, it "just sits there." Great, avoids bad pages. But it doesn't tell us "what happened."

    So, it looks as though Firefox does a good job of 'telling us things are ok," but doesn't give us a signal that "things aren't what they should be" as does IE.

    Again, if we choose the "Add" or "remove" in Firefox and the user is signed in, there is no problem adding the RSS-feed with Firefox.


    Test 8


    Start Time: 27-Nov-04, UTC 21:06:56

    Mode: Not signed in

    With Firefox, unless a user is signed-in, they cannot see the sample feed. Users get the following message which is not consistent [Can't see it, but this is what it looks like]:

    "Preview not available. Add this content to your page to see it

    Here's what the Mud's Tests module will look like on your My Yahoo! page. "

    IE displays the contrast in the messages. Below it says...."Here's what the source will look like on your My Yahoo! page"

    But in the window it says...
    Action canceled
    Internet Explorer was unable to link to the Web page you requested. The page might be temporarily unavailable.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Because Firefox and IE produce the same inconsistency, we conclude the error lies not with the browser, but in the way the Yahoo-beta is working the "logic tree of adding the Feed."

    It appears Yahoo-beta consistently "does not allow the sample feed to be seen" unless users are signed in. In my view Yahoo has two options to make the two messages consistent:

    1. If it chooses to produce no feed as a sample, delete the comment that says, "this is what it looks like."; or

    2. If it wants to retain the "this is what it looks like," rework the display so that users, even if not signed into Yahoo, can still see the sample feed.


    Test 9


    Start Time: 27-Nov-04, UTC 21:15:00

    Even though "not signed in," Test 9 is unique in 'what it does next." IE takes us immediately to the "sign-in box" without seeing the "sample RSS feed" [that would probably be blank.]

    If the Feed is already added and attempt to "add a new feed" of the same name:

    One thing that we noticed during Test 9 was that "if the user chooses to not do either of the two options" [Java-window], that the java box doesn't disappear on its own.

    This is important in that if someone says, "I want to remove this RSS feed" they get stuck and can't say, "no thanks." The Yellow-Java box covers the "no thanks" option.

    It would be nice if the yellow-java box showed "both Add and No thanks" by appearing below these choices, instead of covering up the "no thanks" option.

    When signed-out, Firefox in Test 9 did the same as IE: Rather than showing the standard-box of "this is what the RSS feed looks like that you are adding," we are taken immediately to the sign-in box. Again, "What are we adding?" < --- unclear. If we go to the "Add option" and choose "no thanks," Yahoo-beta takes us back to "sign-in" instead of a more suitable "alternative". Alternate

    If someone has signed in to add a feed, changes their mind, and says, "no thanks," would be good if the user was taken to .... a confirming message, "You have decided not to add this feed." And provide some sort of option of "what's next":

    A. "We can take you back to the original website that referred you here
    B. End Session;
    C. Try another feed; or
    D. Go back to My Yahoo


    When we choose "no thanks" with Firefox we get no "next box" [which IE shows as a sign-in], but the browser "just sits there" without any prompting of "OK, since you don't want to add this feed, what's next....:...[options]."


    Test 10


    Start Time: 27-Nov-04, UTC 21:29:33

    Not signed-in: IE and Firefox both go straight to the sign-in without the preview. If the user signs in then selects, "No thanks" user gets directed back to "sign-in" box again for both Firefox and IE. IE keeps the "sign-in" name in the "sign-in box" but does not show the password.

    In other words, there's no "next box" to go to; and the "logical next box" [that Yahoo provides on IE] displays the user's name, but doesn't allow the user to re-enter Yahoo unless they re-enter their password. Pressing "sign-in" without entering a password [even though already signed in] produces an "invalid password" error.

    Would be nice if there was:
    A. Recognition of user status
    B. No requirement to re-enter passwords
    C. A logical "next box" to go to if choose "No thanks"
    D. No requirement to "go to sign-in box" as the "next step" after "no thanks"

    Again, Firefox did not go on the same maze as IE, and simply "just sat there" when pressing "No thanks."

    Test quirk: What's interesting is that "if we sign out" in IE, we're still sign-in with Firefox; and if we sign-in with IE we still have to sign in at the other browser.

    Signed-in:

    Both IE and Firefox correctly showed the "what you are adding" displays.

    IE: "Here's what the Mud's Tests module will look like on your My Yahoo! page. "

    If you remove and add the Feed, the yellow-java box will still cover the "No thanks." Just noticed: "No thanks" is barely visible [just to the left] of the java box. Appears as though this is "intended to be seen", but the java box is covering the option.

    Recommend placing the yellow java box below "Add" and "No thanks" options.

    If we choose, "Add" then "remove"...the "No thanks" is still visible. Here's the boolean-loop. Follow me on these four steps as we toggle back and forth between "Adding and Removing" in IE:

    A. Add
    B. Remove -- Offers user "next step" [In Java box] "Go to My Yahoo"
    C. Add -- Offeres "Next step" [In Java] "Go back" or "Go to My Yahoo"

    ...now...do the unexpected:

    D. Press "No thanks" [Barley visible] < --- just sits there.
    Test 11


    Start Time: 27-Nov-04, UTC 21:48:12

    Mode: Not signed in. IE and Firefox both display, "Sign-in box" without prompting of the Feed.

    After signing in, IE has a valid RSS-sample box, and message. When press "no thanks" IE takes back to "sign-in" with "invalid password."

    However, Firefox, "when pressing no thanks," simply goes back to "sign-in" without displaying "invalid password" in red. If then "sign-back in" with Firefox, and press "no thanks" [2nd time], then get an "invalid password" display.


    Test 12


    Start Time: 27-Nov-04, UTC 21:52:51

    IE and Firefox, even if signed in, both get message,
    "Preview not available. Add this content to your page to see it

    Here's what the Mud's Tests module will look like on your My Yahoo! page.
    "


    Same types of challenges with "No thanks"-- freeze-up with Firefox, sign-in.

    12 Tests Completed: 27-Nov-04, UTC 21:56:40

    Disclaimer:

    This user-beta-test report and its author are not affiliated with Yahoo, Microsoft, or Firefox. The author does not receive any financial benefit, or consideration for posting this material, nor does the author have financial interests in either Yahoo, MSFT, or Firefox.
  • Quick Tips:

  • Perhaps you need a workaround to add a feed to MyYahoo.

  • How to make Firefox run faster -- It's a dramatic improvement, I've used the settings. Wow!

  • Known problems with Firefox-Blogger integration. Add your comments!

    Summary

    Yahoo has a fine product and users will find it an excellent tool to track their favorite RSS feeds.

  • It is easy to add RSS feeds to "My Yahoo" using both Firefox and Internet Explorer.

  • When adding RSS feeds to MyYahoo, both Firefox and IE performed well.

    For users, the only real problem occurs when "users not signed into Yahoo" attempt to Add RSS feeds. In most if not all cases, instead of being shown the RSS feed "to be added" to myYahoo, yahoo-users-not-signed-in are shown a blank field.

    Test objective

    This test only looked at the ease of using the existing "Add to My Yahoo" buttons that are publicly available. This test hoped to determine whether there were any problems with the embedded HTML code in the buttons; any problems with linking; or any problems with adding RSS feeds to MyYahoo using either Internet Explorer or Firefox. There are no major issues.

    Tests

    This blog entry applies 12 tests to the Firefox and Internet Explorer search engines.

    Original blog entry

    This blog entry tests the compatibility of the "Add to my Yahoo button" [for the RSS feed] with various browsers.

    Purpose of this blog entry is to identify error messages that are unique to browsers and their compatibility with "Add to my Yahoo" button Bar.

    This test will determine whether there are unique errors to the "non-IE" browsers that interfere with "Adding an RSS feed to My Yahoo" using the existing "Add to my yahoo button bars".

    Browsers tested: Ref

    Test

    Browser loaded to desktop only, no embedded files added to system. No data was imported from MS IE during download or set-up.

    12 tests run.

    Questions

    Were there any problems adding the RSS feed to "My Yahoo" using the 12 options?

    Are there any error messages outside what was baselined in the updated 12-tests?

    Test Results

    Firefox Set-up, general observations

    1. Firefox did not recognize the target website. Ref

    Sorry, no information is available for the URL mudtesting.blogspot.com

    * If the URL is valid, try visiting that web page by clicking on the following link: mudtesting.blogspot.com
    * Find web pages that contain the term "mudtesting.blogspot.com" Ref


    2. Firefox's color recognition not consistent with MS IE. Adjusted colors did not appear as changed. Confirmed using MS IE that the colors were changed. Unclear why the color-representation in Firefox is not consistent with MS IE.

    Detailed test resultsRef


    Test 1


    No error message, connected. However nothing appeared in the box to the right. Neither an error message nor a sample site-feed.


    Test 2


    Only showed one-RSS-feed item. No errors for Firefox. OK to use. However, after signing in to Yahoo with a valid ID, browser showed a "Loading preview ..." but never showed anything. After approx 2 minutes got a "Preview temporarily unavailable. However, you can still click "Add It" to add this source to your page."

    Interestingly, a comparison with MS IE on the same test [without signing-in] produced a "We're sorry this service is temporarily not available." Message.

    After hitting the "back" button on MS IE, was a link to http://us.rd.yahoo.com/my/add/rss/*, stating, "The requested URL /my/add/rss/* was not found on this server."


    Test 3


    Start Time: 27-Nov-04, UTC 20:15:30

    Firefox able to connect to the complete RSS-feed, showed detailed colors. Even had the selected "My Yahoo" layout colors -- a first time for any of the tests. All other times showed a simple "black and white" layout without any colors.

    IE gave an "unable to connect"-type message:

    Action canceled
    Internet Explorer was unable to link to the Web page you requested. The page might be temporarily unavailable.



    Test 4


    Start Time: 27-Nov-04, UTC 20:19:12

    Test 4 is merely a calibration test of the feed-to-browser connection.

    Firefox fell down on this one. We're using a valid feed, but the formatting fails to display the nice breaks. Firefox shows all HTML-links in the Feedburner-feed as plain-text, meaning that they do not appears as bold or sample link, but they are listed as code as if with a pre- or code-command.

    IE does not suffer this problem: All text is spaced, highlighted, and links work in Test three.

    Appears as though there is a compatability issue in the way that Firefox reads the validated-RSS feed, unclear why IE performs in a superior manner than Firefox with respect to feed-format.

    Recommend there be some further study of the differences between browser display of various feeds. It seems surprising this late in the game [2004] that a browser is still having a problem with simple HTML in a feed.


    Test 5


    Start Time: 27-Nov-04, UTC 20:27:03

    If users are already signed into Yahoo, Firefox performed well: Nice colors in the display box with a connected feed, and feed could be added and deleted without problems.

    However, if users are not signed into Yahoo, get a blank "right hand box" but still offered the opportunity to sign-in at the left. Able to sign-in, add the feed, and correctly connected to the blogger-error messages related to "page not available" [after title changed].

    Not Found

    The requested URL was not found on this server. Please visit the Blogger homepage or the Blogger Knowledge Base for further assistance. Ref


    In Test 5, and "not signed in to Yahoo," IE showed the following:

    Action canceled
    Internet Explorer was unable to link to the Web page you requested. The page might be temporarily unavailable.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Please try the following:

    Click the Refresh button, or try again later.

    If you have visited this page previously and you want to view what has been stored on your computer, click File, and then click Work Offline.

    For information about offline browsing with Internet Explorer, click the Help menu, and then click Contents and Index.

    Internet Explorer


    The problem with the above message: It is not visible in the window. Only able to read the message if scroll back and forth, or repasting it elsewhere.

    "When already signed into Yahoo," IE Test 5 linked to the Feed. It is interesting that the color difference is apparent: Firefox shows the user's selected colors, while IE shows a light-brown, the same shade in the blogger-editing box.

    Color Comparison:

    Given the inconsistency between the "original colors in an HTML" for the yahoo-buttons, not surprising there is a color difference. However, unclear if this is a translation-disconnect [the browser reads one code and shows something else], or whether this is a display issue [IE does not appear to take a user's content-related choices on color, while Firefox appears to do so].

    Confirmation message comparison:

    Firefox displays the Yahoo-related material in a new browser, taking the user to the "My Yahoo content."

    On the other hand, IE does it a little differently with a java-box. Rather than take the user directly to the "My Yahoo" content as Firefox does, IE stays in the same window and shows a "yellow java-pop-up box" [more formal than the yellow-boxes for link-comments] and allows users to [a] remove the just added RSS-feed; [b] go back a window; or [c] go to my Yahoo to see the changes.

    Perhaps IE will make the java boxes similar to the Outlook Express buttons: Rounded, smooth, and a little less harsh in terms of font and box-angles. Yes, details.


    Test 6


    Start Time: 27-Nov-04, UTC 20:27:03

    Firefox works well if "already signed in," but if not signed in there's "a blank box on the right" [giving no indication of the feed contents], yet there is no specific error message on the right.

    Rather, Firefox tends to produce one of those "here's what we'll give you" but then shows nothing when they say,

    Here's what the source will look like on your My Yahoo! page


    This is not all that inviting. Yet, on the left we see the "To add this source to My Yahoo! you need to sign in." [Emphasis added]. Ok, "what are we adding?" No answer.

    Even when we do sign-in this test on Firefox produces the following, with light-brown outline-colors:

    Preview not available. Add this content to your page to see it


    IE works well "if already signed into Yahoo." IE, without signing in to Yahoo produces:

    Action canceled
    Internet Explorer was unable to link to the Web page you requested. The page might be temporarily unavailable.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Please try the following:

    Click the Refresh button, or try again later.

    If you have visited this page previously and you want to view what has been stored on your computer, click File, and then click Work Offline.

    For information about offline browsing with Internet Explorer, click the Help menu, and then click Contents and Index.

    Internet Explorer


    It's apparent that the "java-box" is not unique to Firefox-IE, but to Yahoo. Unclear why this only suddenly appeared in this test.

    Also, despite updating the feed, the "most current" listed is from 2 days ago [last date of update prior to this blog-entry].


    Test 7


    Start Time: 27-Nov-04, UTC 20:55:27

    IE showed the "Action cancelled"-error message "when not signed in"; after signing in got a "Loading preview ..." message in the right-box, and the correct color scheme appearing. Clearly, the color scheme is not a function of the browser but what the user selects in "My Yahoo."

    After prompted with, "Add it?" and say, "No thanks," get the following:

    Sorry, the page you requested was not found.
    Please check the URL for proper spelling and capitalization. If you're having trouble locating a destination on Yahoo!, try visiting the Yahoo! home page or look through a list of Yahoo!'s online services. Also, you may find what you're looking for if you try searching below.


    ... suggesting that Yahoo doesn't have a complete wiring diagram of the user-faults yet. In other words, probably people who are testing this generally "only choose to select to add" and they haven't created a page to 'deal with those who balk."

    - Error mode for IE-Yahoo:

    A. Signed in
    B. Selected a Feed to Add
    C. Pressed the "Add to My Yahoo button"
    D. Arrived at this link: here
    E. Prompted with,

    Mud's Tests
    RSS-interface: End-user beta-testing

    Add this source to the RSS Headlines (BETA) module on your page.


    F. If choose "No thanks" got the same error message as above, "Sorry, the page you requested was not found. Please check the URL for proper spelling and capitalization. ...." Ref

    Doing the same with Firefox [Choosing no thanks], rather than go to an error page as does IE, Firefox "just sits there." Ref.

    Let's assume that the "problem" as this point is the Yahoo-beta [confirmed by the error page with IE]; it looks as though what Firefox does [unlike IE] is rather than go to a page that doesn't work, it "just sits there." Great, avoids bad pages. But it doesn't tell us "what happened."

    So, it looks as though Firefox does a good job of 'telling us things are ok," but doesn't give us a signal that "things aren't what they should be" as does IE.

    Again, if we choose the "Add" or "remove" in Firefox and the user is signed in, there is no problem adding the RSS-feed with Firefox.


    Test 8


    Start Time: 27-Nov-04, UTC 21:06:56

    Mode: Not signed in

    With Firefox, unless a user is signed-in, they cannot see the sample feed. Users get the following message which is not consistent [Can't see it, but this is what it looks like]:

    "Preview not available. Add this content to your page to see it

    Here's what the Mud's Tests module will look like on your My Yahoo! page. "

    IE displays the contrast in the messages. Below it says...."Here's what the source will look like on your My Yahoo! page"

    But in the window it says...
    Action canceled
    Internet Explorer was unable to link to the Web page you requested. The page might be temporarily unavailable.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Because Firefox and IE produce the same inconsistency, we conclude the error lies not with the browser, but in the way the Yahoo-beta is working the "logic tree of adding the Feed."

    It appears Yahoo-beta consistently "does not allow the sample feed to be seen" unless users are signed in. In my view Yahoo has two options to make the two messages consistent:

    1. If it chooses to produce no feed as a sample, delete the comment that says, "this is what it looks like."; or

    2. If it wants to retain the "this is what it looks like," rework the display so that users, even if not signed into Yahoo, can still see the sample feed.


    Test 9


    Start Time: 27-Nov-04, UTC 21:15:00

    Even though "not signed in," Test 9 is unique in 'what it does next." IE takes us immediately to the "sign-in box" without seeing the "sample RSS feed" [that would probably be blank.]

    If the Feed is already added and attempt to "add a new feed" of the same name:

    One thing that we noticed during Test 9 was that "if the user chooses to not do either of the two options" [Java-window], that the java box doesn't disappear on its own.

    This is important in that if someone says, "I want to remove this RSS feed" they get stuck and can't say, "no thanks." The Yellow-Java box covers the "no thanks" option.

    It would be nice if the yellow-java box showed "both Add and No thanks" by appearing below these choices, instead of covering up the "no thanks" option.

    When signed-out, Firefox in Test 9 did the same as IE: Rather than showing the standard-box of "this is what the RSS feed looks like that you are adding," we are taken immediately to the sign-in box. Again, "What are we adding?" < --- unclear. If we go to the "Add option" and choose "no thanks," Yahoo-beta takes us back to "sign-in" instead of a more suitable "alternative". Alternate

    If someone has signed in to add a feed, changes their mind, and says, "no thanks," would be good if the user was taken to .... a confirming message, "You have decided not to add this feed." And provide some sort of option of "what's next":

    A. "We can take you back to the original website that referred you here
    B. End Session;
    C. Try another feed; or
    D. Go back to My Yahoo


    When we choose "no thanks" with Firefox we get no "next box" [which IE shows as a sign-in], but the browser "just sits there" without any prompting of "OK, since you don't want to add this feed, what's next....:...[options]."


    Test 10


    Start Time: 27-Nov-04, UTC 21:29:33

    Not signed-in: IE and Firefox both go straight to the sign-in without the preview. If the user signs in then selects, "No thanks" user gets directed back to "sign-in" box again for both Firefox and IE. IE keeps the "sign-in" name in the "sign-in box" but does not show the password.

    In other words, there's no "next box" to go to; and the "logical next box" [that Yahoo provides on IE] displays the user's name, but doesn't allow the user to re-enter Yahoo unless they re-enter their password. Pressing "sign-in" without entering a password [even though already signed in] produces an "invalid password" error.

    Would be nice if there was:
    A. Recognition of user status
    B. No requirement to re-enter passwords
    C. A logical "next box" to go to if choose "No thanks"
    D. No requirement to "go to sign-in box" as the "next step" after "no thanks"

    Again, Firefox did not go on the same maze as IE, and simply "just sat there" when pressing "No thanks."

    Test quirk: What's interesting is that "if we sign out" in IE, we're still sign-in with Firefox; and if we sign-in with IE we still have to sign in at the other browser.

    Signed-in:

    Both IE and Firefox correctly showed the "what you are adding" displays.

    IE: "Here's what the Mud's Tests module will look like on your My Yahoo! page. "

    If you remove and add the Feed, the yellow-java box will still cover the "No thanks." Just noticed: "No thanks" is barely visible [just to the left] of the java box. Appears as though this is "intended to be seen", but the java box is covering the option.

    Recommend placing the yellow java box below "Add" and "No thanks" options.

    If we choose, "Add" then "remove"...the "No thanks" is still visible. Here's the boolean-loop. Follow me on these four steps as we toggle back and forth between "Adding and Removing" in IE:

    A. Add
    B. Remove -- Offers user "next step" [In Java box] "Go to My Yahoo"
    C. Add -- Offeres "Next step" [In Java] "Go back" or "Go to My Yahoo"

    ...now...do the unexpected:

    D. Press "No thanks" [Barley visible] < --- just sits there.
    Test 11


    Start Time: 27-Nov-04, UTC 21:48:12

    Mode: Not signed in. IE and Firefox both display, "Sign-in box" without prompting of the Feed.

    After signing in, IE has a valid RSS-sample box, and message. When press "no thanks" IE takes back to "sign-in" with "invalid password."

    However, Firefox, "when pressing no thanks," simply goes back to "sign-in" without displaying "invalid password" in red. If then "sign-back in" with Firefox, and press "no thanks" [2nd time], then get an "invalid password" display.


    Test 12


    Start Time: 27-Nov-04, UTC 21:52:51

    IE and Firefox, even if signed in, both get message,
    "Preview not available. Add this content to your page to see it

    Here's what the Mud's Tests module will look like on your My Yahoo! page.
    "


    Same types of challenges with "No thanks"-- freeze-up with Firefox, sign-in.

    12 Tests Completed: 27-Nov-04, UTC 21:56:40

    Disclaimer:

    This user-beta-test report and its author are not affiliated with Yahoo, Microsoft, or Firefox. The author does not receive any financial benefit, or consideration for posting this material, nor does the author have financial interests in either Yahoo, MSFT, or Firefox.
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