18 December 2004

Ping-return messages: They are misleading on your feed listing status

Here's a caution for RSS feed-hosts. If you're getting a "thanks for the ping" message, you may not necessarily be listed.

Don't ask me how but it happens.

Apparently, even though you may have submitted your feed and gotten a "confirming message back" that you're listed, don't take the ping-backs as confirmation things are OK.

You have to actually go in there, find your URL, and make sure it's listed.

Quite a surprise when "all this time" you're getting "thanks for the ping" and "thanks for listing" and "your submission is confirmed" and "here is your confirmation".

Every indication you've gotten is that your site-feed-URL was submitted, and things are connected. Unfortunately, reality doesn't match the available information.

There's a disconnect between [a] whether your feed is submitted; [b] your actual feed status; and [c] whether the ping-message you're getting back is a good indication of how your feed is getting received.

So, you've just listed your feed with x-hundred feed-URLs. How many of them actually worked despite the confirming message back?

Oh, "you don't know which ones you submitted them to...". Ouch, looks like you have no basis to verify whether the "system that they got your feed" actually still has your feed.

Looks like you have two options: Resubmit to them all again. Or ignore it. Either way, you don't know.

And that's merely another problem with RSS. You think you know, but when you dig a little, you find out there's so much that doesn't add up.

Don't argue with me that RSS is efficient when someone has to go to this level of detail to reverify things that "should already work" as advertised. This isn't efficiency. This is a level of fidelity that auditors aren't going to go through.

Let's hope XML and RSS don't turn out to be another White Elephant like Enron. You've been warned.
Here's a caution for RSS feed-hosts. If you're getting a "thanks for the ping" message, you may not necessarily be listed.

Don't ask me how but it happens.

Apparently, even though you may have submitted your feed and gotten a "confirming message back" that you're listed, don't take the ping-backs as confirmation things are OK.

You have to actually go in there, find your URL, and make sure it's listed.

Quite a surprise when "all this time" you're getting "thanks for the ping" and "thanks for listing" and "your submission is confirmed" and "here is your confirmation".

Every indication you've gotten is that your site-feed-URL was submitted, and things are connected. Unfortunately, reality doesn't match the available information.

There's a disconnect between [a] whether your feed is submitted; [b] your actual feed status; and [c] whether the ping-message you're getting back is a good indication of how your feed is getting received.

So, you've just listed your feed with x-hundred feed-URLs. How many of them actually worked despite the confirming message back?

Oh, "you don't know which ones you submitted them to...". Ouch, looks like you have no basis to verify whether the "system that they got your feed" actually still has your feed.

Looks like you have two options: Resubmit to them all again. Or ignore it. Either way, you don't know.

And that's merely another problem with RSS. You think you know, but when you dig a little, you find out there's so much that doesn't add up.

Don't argue with me that RSS is efficient when someone has to go to this level of detail to reverify things that "should already work" as advertised. This isn't efficiency. This is a level of fidelity that auditors aren't going to go through.

Let's hope XML and RSS don't turn out to be another White Elephant like Enron. You've been warned.
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