11 January 2005

[ D ] Integration, Technorati BBC WhiteLabel, 11-Jan-05 UTC 22:38:40

Congratulations

Technorati recently announced runners up of the developers contest. Stefan Magdalinksi Stefan Magdalinski with Whitelabel.org integrates Technorati comments into the BBC site.

Concept

The idea is that bloggers who make comments about the BBC article will have their blogs show up. The entries do not show up directly on the BBC site, but have to be accessed through a special link.

However, it appears as though there are delays in how quickly the comments appear, and not all the links work. It remains to be understood how long the time-lag is between the time a comment is posted in a blog, then pinged to Technorati, and then finally appearing as a linked-blog.

Details

First we blogged on a BBC article, with internal links to both the BBC site and the wikiproxy. Note the links in the blog are linked at "ref".

Here's the problem: If you go back to the BBC site through the wikiproxy, the list of blogs doesn't show up in the upper right. This is not in all cases, as you can see in this sample. Notice there is a nice list of bloggers on the right hand side.

Either the wikiproxy has a delay; or for some reason this particular site on the BBC isn't showing anything; or there is something else going on.

Let's consider some workarounds. What if we try to surf off this page, go somewhere else, and then come back: Maybe the problem will go away. If we attempt to go from this known BBC site and start to surf around we get no change: The list of bloggers isn't showing up.

What we do know is that this article is a valid link, in that it traces from Technorati, through both the wikiproxy and BBC.

If we go up to the BBC search, and type in "Gates" from this page that we back-tracked from, we run into another issue: The Wikiproxy falls apart, takes us out of the BBC-Technorati-stuff, and we are booted out, as evidenced by the "nothing in the URL with the Whitelabel in it.

So, there's known content that's been linked to, commented on, but I can't find the other bloggers, nor is there a box of comments, and I have no way of searching for this, nor going through another route on the BBC.

I also tried linking to the article without the BBC link, and simply using the wiki-url. Again, the results were the same: Nothing related to my link, but there was one link from the 30th of December, 2004.

This blog then includes both links to the BBC and the wiki-proxy at both the Ref-spots; again, I'm not listed, but there is one listed for 6 Jan.

Finally, this blog lists both the BBC and the wiki proxy, goes to a long list of bloggers, which even includes one from 9 Jan.

Summary

Congratulations to Stefan Magdalinksi Stefan Magdalinski for winning the prize. It's a nice concept. For the most part it's neat to see how the integration can function between three platforms.

I was pleased to see that there were long lists of bloggers which showed that four platforms could be integrated: The blogger, BBC, the search tool, and the integrating feature with Stefan's product.

Perhaps others may wish to further review the product:

  • Time delay

    What kind of time lags are there?

    Is a blogger's-link only appearing on the wiki after a certain period of time?

  • Internal searches

    Is it known that the internal links to the search engine are not fully compatible, taking the reader out of the wiki?

  • Min-Maximum number of items on the blogger list

    Is there minimum number of Technorati hits required before something will appear in the blogger box?

  • Not all BBC content has a panel in the proxy

    What triggers a panel to be created in some situations, while in other situations there is no panel?
  • Congratulations

    Technorati recently announced runners up of the developers contest. Stefan Magdalinksi Stefan Magdalinski with Whitelabel.org integrates Technorati comments into the BBC site.

    Concept

    The idea is that bloggers who make comments about the BBC article will have their blogs show up. The entries do not show up directly on the BBC site, but have to be accessed through a special link.

    However, it appears as though there are delays in how quickly the comments appear, and not all the links work. It remains to be understood how long the time-lag is between the time a comment is posted in a blog, then pinged to Technorati, and then finally appearing as a linked-blog.

    Details

    First we blogged on a BBC article, with internal links to both the BBC site and the wikiproxy. Note the links in the blog are linked at "ref".

    Here's the problem: If you go back to the BBC site through the wikiproxy, the list of blogs doesn't show up in the upper right. This is not in all cases, as you can see in this sample. Notice there is a nice list of bloggers on the right hand side.

    Either the wikiproxy has a delay; or for some reason this particular site on the BBC isn't showing anything; or there is something else going on.

    Let's consider some workarounds. What if we try to surf off this page, go somewhere else, and then come back: Maybe the problem will go away. If we attempt to go from this known BBC site and start to surf around we get no change: The list of bloggers isn't showing up.

    What we do know is that this article is a valid link, in that it traces from Technorati, through both the wikiproxy and BBC.

    If we go up to the BBC search, and type in "Gates" from this page that we back-tracked from, we run into another issue: The Wikiproxy falls apart, takes us out of the BBC-Technorati-stuff, and we are booted out, as evidenced by the "nothing in the URL with the Whitelabel in it.

    So, there's known content that's been linked to, commented on, but I can't find the other bloggers, nor is there a box of comments, and I have no way of searching for this, nor going through another route on the BBC.

    I also tried linking to the article without the BBC link, and simply using the wiki-url. Again, the results were the same: Nothing related to my link, but there was one link from the 30th of December, 2004.

    This blog then includes both links to the BBC and the wiki-proxy at both the Ref-spots; again, I'm not listed, but there is one listed for 6 Jan.

    Finally, this blog lists both the BBC and the wiki proxy, goes to a long list of bloggers, which even includes one from 9 Jan.

    Summary

    Congratulations to Stefan Magdalinksi Stefan Magdalinski for winning the prize. It's a nice concept. For the most part it's neat to see how the integration can function between three platforms.

    I was pleased to see that there were long lists of bloggers which showed that four platforms could be integrated: The blogger, BBC, the search tool, and the integrating feature with Stefan's product.

    Perhaps others may wish to further review the product:

  • Time delay

    What kind of time lags are there?

    Is a blogger's-link only appearing on the wiki after a certain period of time?

  • Internal searches

    Is it known that the internal links to the search engine are not fully compatible, taking the reader out of the wiki?

  • Min-Maximum number of items on the blogger list

    Is there minimum number of Technorati hits required before something will appear in the blogger box?

  • Not all BBC content has a panel in the proxy

    What triggers a panel to be created in some situations, while in other situations there is no panel?
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