16 January 2005

Technorati Search Button 16-Jan-05 UTC 23:20:04

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Result

Technorati search tool appears, for the most part, to work.

Pros
- Instructions are simple
  • Code easily copied
  • Code works
  • Integrates well with host
  • No external support required
  • Con

  • Search tool doesn't appear to search your blog, only the Technorati data.
  • Search tool appears to remove spaces between characters in non-English font.

    Detailed discussion

    Technorati has created quite a nice little tool. It's easy, simple, and straightforward. They get alot of points for the design, support, and deployment of this item. Also, the tool largely does what the major XML search tools can accomplish.

    In short, the tool substantially meets the "in one tool" concept of design. Good!

    There is one minor drawback. It has to do with the search umbrella. The tool doesn't appear to actually search your blog. It only searches the data in the Technorati database.

    Which makes sense, but then again, the tool doesn't actually do what you might think. The tool is only as comprehensive in searching your blog as Technorati data is complete.

    The Technorati searchlette will have no clue this content in on your blog if:
  • your blog has content that hasn't been pinged; or
  • the ping failed to execute; or
  • you have submitted multiple blog-entries in one ping.
  • Ideally, XML search tools would be updated by going back into the content until the search tool verifies that "everything that it has" matches what exists, as opposed to the incremental approach: Here's a new blog [and forget about what has happened since the last update.]

    Technorati cannot be faulted for flaws in the pings; they can only be faulted for failing to have a search platform that overcomes these problems. It remains to be seen whether the FeedMesh concept corrects the integration issues between blogs, ping-updates.

    Hopefully FeedMesh will address this issue:

    Ensure the primary objective of the pings:
  • remains to "fill in the gaps in content since last ping";
  • rather than incrementally update the search tool-service with the most current blog, and, thereby failing to dig deeply to compare what other blog entries may have been added but the search tool is not aware
  • Other Comments

    When I think of a search tool, I add the tool to my host so that I can do work in my primary area: The blog.

    So when Technorati's tool "took over the blog" [without giving me another window], I had trouble with the concept of "going to the trouble of putting this on my blog. As it stands, to look at the search results and then work on my blog at the same time, I have to open another window...

    "What if..." the search tool had a feature that allowed the end-user to option to "open search results in anther window"..

    "What if..." the end-user could adjust the code so that the search tool, inter alia:

  • Displayed the results as either links [like PubSub] or scrollable [like MyStack];
  • Tailored the number of links-results appearing at one time; and
  • Adjusted size of the "output box displaying the results"
  • For more discussion on "user comments on a search box," here's a discussion on MyStack.


  • Language test

    Russian language test: Successfully hit both:

    Ref: Host, Blogger, 13-Jan-05 UTC 16:24:52 19 minutes ago
    Ref [ R ] Search, PubSub, 13-Jan-05 UTC 00:28:26 18 hours 49 minutes ago
    Curiously, despite the positive result with Russian, Arabic appeared to be problematic. For some reason the two different search strings on the same content were not consistently searched and logged: Technorati more quickly recognized Russian than Arabic.

    Arabic language test: Spinning, initially no result. [Waited one hour, and results OK, no problem. Technorati search-tool integrates well with IE: Entered foreign language appears on the browser with no problems. Correctly depicts the script-language without conversion to non-standard codes.]

    Ref Host, Blogger, 13-Jan-05 UTC 16:24:52 1 hour 17 minutes ago
    Searchlette Searchlet Beta

    Copy and paste text saved in blogger into the tool:


    Arabic Retest


    Keyword Search Results:
    الرئيسية. الشرق الأوسط
    on http://mudtesting.blogspot.com

    0 posts from http://mudtesting.blogspot.com matching الرئيسية. الشرق الأوسط sorted by most recent. Query took 124.483 seconds Sorry, no results found.

    Technorati Searchlete may have automatically removed a space between the "first" symbols; in arabic that is on the right side. I've added a space after copying and pasting the arabic into the searchlete.

    Bingo!

    Adding space which the Searchlete Took out


    الأوسط لرئيسية. الشرق الأوسط
    on http://mudtesting.blogspot.com

    1 post from http://mudtesting.blogspot.com matching ا لرئيسية. الشرق الأوسط sorted by most recent.

    Query took 105.605 seconds Host, Blogger, 13-Jan-05 UTC 16:24:52 5 hours 17 minutes ago
    documents and access information that is otherwise not available. ؼ/strong>?ټ/strong>?ؼ/strong>?ؼ/strong>?ټ/strong>?ؼ/strong>?ټ/strong>?ؼ/strong>?. ؼ/strong>?ټ/strong>?ؼ/strong>?ؼ/strong>?ټ/strong>? ؼ/strong>?ټ/strong>?ؼ/strong>?ټ/strong>?ؼ/strong>?ؼ/strong>? Выставки и Сайты. Интересное

    Mud's Tests
    Looks like the Searchlete automatically removes spaces on the "final" letters; in this case, with Arabic, the "space" should be there. So, when the Searchlete removes the space [possibly thinking it is a typo], there's no exact match.

    Also, interesting that the search was successful of ا لرئيسية. الشرق الأوسط
    , but the listed codes are not in arabic: /strong>?ټ/strong.

    Looks as through what happens is blogger is taking the space out as well. It's hard to copy and paste it.

    If you try to copy arabic on a non-arabic typewriter you'll understand: The arrowkeys move the opposite way, and the highlight option jumps around.

    Update


    Technorati Management Response

    David said...

    Wow, that's a fantastic critique. I'm going to send this to our engineering team, and we'll get on the issues that you raised. Thanks!

    Dave

    00:11

    David Sifry, 2005/01/16, 00:11
    Ref Ref Ref Ref

    Result

    Technorati search tool appears, for the most part, to work.

    Pros
    - Instructions are simple
  • Code easily copied
  • Code works
  • Integrates well with host
  • No external support required
  • Con

  • Search tool doesn't appear to search your blog, only the Technorati data.
  • Search tool appears to remove spaces between characters in non-English font.

    Detailed discussion

    Technorati has created quite a nice little tool. It's easy, simple, and straightforward. They get alot of points for the design, support, and deployment of this item. Also, the tool largely does what the major XML search tools can accomplish.

    In short, the tool substantially meets the "in one tool" concept of design. Good!

    There is one minor drawback. It has to do with the search umbrella. The tool doesn't appear to actually search your blog. It only searches the data in the Technorati database.

    Which makes sense, but then again, the tool doesn't actually do what you might think. The tool is only as comprehensive in searching your blog as Technorati data is complete.

    The Technorati searchlette will have no clue this content in on your blog if:
  • your blog has content that hasn't been pinged; or
  • the ping failed to execute; or
  • you have submitted multiple blog-entries in one ping.
  • Ideally, XML search tools would be updated by going back into the content until the search tool verifies that "everything that it has" matches what exists, as opposed to the incremental approach: Here's a new blog [and forget about what has happened since the last update.]

    Technorati cannot be faulted for flaws in the pings; they can only be faulted for failing to have a search platform that overcomes these problems. It remains to be seen whether the FeedMesh concept corrects the integration issues between blogs, ping-updates.

    Hopefully FeedMesh will address this issue:

    Ensure the primary objective of the pings:
  • remains to "fill in the gaps in content since last ping";
  • rather than incrementally update the search tool-service with the most current blog, and, thereby failing to dig deeply to compare what other blog entries may have been added but the search tool is not aware
  • Other Comments

    When I think of a search tool, I add the tool to my host so that I can do work in my primary area: The blog.

    So when Technorati's tool "took over the blog" [without giving me another window], I had trouble with the concept of "going to the trouble of putting this on my blog. As it stands, to look at the search results and then work on my blog at the same time, I have to open another window...

    "What if..." the search tool had a feature that allowed the end-user to option to "open search results in anther window"..

    "What if..." the end-user could adjust the code so that the search tool, inter alia:

  • Displayed the results as either links [like PubSub] or scrollable [like MyStack];
  • Tailored the number of links-results appearing at one time; and
  • Adjusted size of the "output box displaying the results"
  • For more discussion on "user comments on a search box," here's a discussion on MyStack.


  • Language test

    Russian language test: Successfully hit both:

    Ref: Host, Blogger, 13-Jan-05 UTC 16:24:52 19 minutes ago
    Ref [ R ] Search, PubSub, 13-Jan-05 UTC 00:28:26 18 hours 49 minutes ago
    Curiously, despite the positive result with Russian, Arabic appeared to be problematic. For some reason the two different search strings on the same content were not consistently searched and logged: Technorati more quickly recognized Russian than Arabic.

    Arabic language test: Spinning, initially no result. [Waited one hour, and results OK, no problem. Technorati search-tool integrates well with IE: Entered foreign language appears on the browser with no problems. Correctly depicts the script-language without conversion to non-standard codes.]

    Ref Host, Blogger, 13-Jan-05 UTC 16:24:52 1 hour 17 minutes ago
    Searchlette Searchlet Beta

    Copy and paste text saved in blogger into the tool:


    Arabic Retest


    Keyword Search Results:
    الرئيسية. الشرق الأوسط
    on http://mudtesting.blogspot.com

    0 posts from http://mudtesting.blogspot.com matching الرئيسية. الشرق الأوسط sorted by most recent. Query took 124.483 seconds Sorry, no results found.

    Technorati Searchlete may have automatically removed a space between the "first" symbols; in arabic that is on the right side. I've added a space after copying and pasting the arabic into the searchlete.

    Bingo!

    Adding space which the Searchlete Took out


    الأوسط لرئيسية. الشرق الأوسط
    on http://mudtesting.blogspot.com

    1 post from http://mudtesting.blogspot.com matching ا لرئيسية. الشرق الأوسط sorted by most recent.

    Query took 105.605 seconds Host, Blogger, 13-Jan-05 UTC 16:24:52 5 hours 17 minutes ago
    documents and access information that is otherwise not available. ؼ/strong>?ټ/strong>?ؼ/strong>?ؼ/strong>?ټ/strong>?ؼ/strong>?ټ/strong>?ؼ/strong>?. ؼ/strong>?ټ/strong>?ؼ/strong>?ؼ/strong>?ټ/strong>? ؼ/strong>?ټ/strong>?ؼ/strong>?ټ/strong>?ؼ/strong>?ؼ/strong>? Выставки и Сайты. Интересное

    Mud's Tests
    Looks like the Searchlete automatically removes spaces on the "final" letters; in this case, with Arabic, the "space" should be there. So, when the Searchlete removes the space [possibly thinking it is a typo], there's no exact match.

    Also, interesting that the search was successful of ا لرئيسية. الشرق الأوسط
    , but the listed codes are not in arabic: /strong>?ټ/strong.

    Looks as through what happens is blogger is taking the space out as well. It's hard to copy and paste it.

    If you try to copy arabic on a non-arabic typewriter you'll understand: The arrowkeys move the opposite way, and the highlight option jumps around.

    Update


    Technorati Management Response

    David said...

    Wow, that's a fantastic critique. I'm going to send this to our engineering team, and we'll get on the issues that you raised. Thanks!

    Dave

    00:11

    David Sifry, 2005/01/16, 00:11
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