03 March 2005

Ping, FeedMesh, 3-Mar-05 UTC 14:35:10


Summary


Larger players in the FeedMesh may have some valuable insights for the new players on efficiencies to process XML feeds. NewsGator immediately posts content as it receives it. Blogger generally posts and publishes immediately, while Haloscan generally takes between 20 and 40 minutes.

The larger aggregators may have some valuable lessons for the other members of the feedmesh: How to expedite feedmesh content. I encourage the cross talks to continue.

Considering not all that long ago, it took many weeks for a letter to travel by Pony Express, I think things are just fine. If you are interesting in reading more about the details, we provide a discussion.


Discussion


Haloscan and Blogger both provide very easy to use functions for providing comment. Haloscan provides an outstanding package that is easy to use, integrates comments from an external source, and the trackbacks and platform are outstanding.

This test looked at how quickly the content updates were incorporated through feeds into NewsGator. There are negligible time delays in posting comments to blogger then having that content appear in NewsGator Online.

With respect to FeedMesh, the two issues are:

  • the delay in the lower portions of PingOMatic. Generally, the bottom-services on the list get hung up. On my list this is NewsGator and Feedster.

  • the time delay in posting comments in Haloscan.com and having them appear in the NewsGator Online appear to be some sort of delay in issuing content on the RSS Feed from Haloscan.

    However, in the large scheme of things, a 15-30 minute delay is OK. Not great, but given the cost [Zero], well done.

    However, the issue for FeedMesh is: What are the non-aggregators doing that may contribute to time lags?

    It may be a simple matter of a test-issue. However, remain confident the timing=factors [time hacks, user delays] can be quantified as marginal.


    Results

    Details at the end of this blog


    We ran several ping tests between Blogger, Haloscan and NewsGator Online Edition. NewsGator Online's clock-time appears to match standard internal clock times, not requiring any calibration or adjustment.

    There was a small delay in Haloscan's post time in both the initial comments to post from Haloscan Manager to the Haloscan display in Blogger [5 minutes]; the larger delay comes when we look at the RSS feed from Haloscan to the aggregator.

    In both cases the time was larger: Case 1 was 37 minutes, and a retest was 14 minutes. The issue doesn't appear to be something related to the aggregator, but the content provider.


    FeedMesh

    Sharing the biscuits


    This is not intended to single out Haloscan. Rather, the issue becomes whether content providers like Haloscan which offer free support may have some time delays which the aggregators have overcome.

    Perhaps there are some efficiencies which the larger aggregators could share with the other players in the FeedMesh.

    Perhaps unrelated, there may be some things which Synidic8 has learned about the 2RSSCache which other players may benefit. It remains to be understood whether Syndic8 has learned some things which NewsGator could apply, or whether Haloscan is doing something outside the 2RSSCache system.


    Recommendations


    Haloscan, Blogger, and Newsgator are on Mud's Tests "highly recommend" list for ease of use, integration, and overall being really nice: They are online, require no download, and users do not need to know much to use them.

    Someone could literally set up a platform and have their content published, pinged, and sent to their own aggregator in less than an hour. A new user unfamiliar with blogs, and feeds could take substantially longer.


    Disclaimer


    The above comments should not be construed as an official position of any corporation, and the test is unrelated and not sponsored by either NewsGator, Blogger, or Haloscan.



    Summarized Test Results

  • There is a marginal delay in posting comments from blogger to NewsGator: 38 seconds; less than 1 minute, or 2 minutes.

  • There is a noticeable delay in posting comments in Haloscan, then having those comments report to Blogger then NewsGator Online: 14-19 minutes; 37 minutes.

    There needs to be some more look at the second-listed Haloscan test, 37 minutes. The Haloscan numbers could be as low as 27, but I'm sticking with the 37 number.



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  • Summary


    Larger players in the FeedMesh may have some valuable insights for the new players on efficiencies to process XML feeds. NewsGator immediately posts content as it receives it. Blogger generally posts and publishes immediately, while Haloscan generally takes between 20 and 40 minutes.

    The larger aggregators may have some valuable lessons for the other members of the feedmesh: How to expedite feedmesh content. I encourage the cross talks to continue.

    Considering not all that long ago, it took many weeks for a letter to travel by Pony Express, I think things are just fine. If you are interesting in reading more about the details, we provide a discussion.


    Discussion


    Haloscan and Blogger both provide very easy to use functions for providing comment. Haloscan provides an outstanding package that is easy to use, integrates comments from an external source, and the trackbacks and platform are outstanding.

    This test looked at how quickly the content updates were incorporated through feeds into NewsGator. There are negligible time delays in posting comments to blogger then having that content appear in NewsGator Online.

    With respect to FeedMesh, the two issues are:

  • the delay in the lower portions of PingOMatic. Generally, the bottom-services on the list get hung up. On my list this is NewsGator and Feedster.

  • the time delay in posting comments in Haloscan.com and having them appear in the NewsGator Online appear to be some sort of delay in issuing content on the RSS Feed from Haloscan.

    However, in the large scheme of things, a 15-30 minute delay is OK. Not great, but given the cost [Zero], well done.

    However, the issue for FeedMesh is: What are the non-aggregators doing that may contribute to time lags?

    It may be a simple matter of a test-issue. However, remain confident the timing=factors [time hacks, user delays] can be quantified as marginal.


    Results

    Details at the end of this blog


    We ran several ping tests between Blogger, Haloscan and NewsGator Online Edition. NewsGator Online's clock-time appears to match standard internal clock times, not requiring any calibration or adjustment.

    There was a small delay in Haloscan's post time in both the initial comments to post from Haloscan Manager to the Haloscan display in Blogger [5 minutes]; the larger delay comes when we look at the RSS feed from Haloscan to the aggregator.

    In both cases the time was larger: Case 1 was 37 minutes, and a retest was 14 minutes. The issue doesn't appear to be something related to the aggregator, but the content provider.


    FeedMesh

    Sharing the biscuits


    This is not intended to single out Haloscan. Rather, the issue becomes whether content providers like Haloscan which offer free support may have some time delays which the aggregators have overcome.

    Perhaps there are some efficiencies which the larger aggregators could share with the other players in the FeedMesh.

    Perhaps unrelated, there may be some things which Synidic8 has learned about the 2RSSCache which other players may benefit. It remains to be understood whether Syndic8 has learned some things which NewsGator could apply, or whether Haloscan is doing something outside the 2RSSCache system.


    Recommendations


    Haloscan, Blogger, and Newsgator are on Mud's Tests "highly recommend" list for ease of use, integration, and overall being really nice: They are online, require no download, and users do not need to know much to use them.

    Someone could literally set up a platform and have their content published, pinged, and sent to their own aggregator in less than an hour. A new user unfamiliar with blogs, and feeds could take substantially longer.


    Disclaimer


    The above comments should not be construed as an official position of any corporation, and the test is unrelated and not sponsored by either NewsGator, Blogger, or Haloscan.



    Summarized Test Results

  • There is a marginal delay in posting comments from blogger to NewsGator: 38 seconds; less than 1 minute, or 2 minutes.

  • There is a noticeable delay in posting comments in Haloscan, then having those comments report to Blogger then NewsGator Online: 14-19 minutes; 37 minutes.

    There needs to be some more look at the second-listed Haloscan test, 37 minutes. The Haloscan numbers could be as low as 27, but I'm sticking with the 37 number.



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